You're on the cusp of taking the plunge, mate. So I recommend you try out a compilation - 50,000 Fall Fans Can't Be Wrong. It's a great primer. My son got into them that way, having previously fled the house screaming and threatening to call social services whenever I played them. You'll be surprised at the sheer diversity of styles, yet baffled as to why they somehow sound practically the same as they did at the beginning. The clues were there from the very start, laid out manifesto style, on the B-side of their first EP: Cos we dig Cos we dig We dig We dig repetition We dig repetition We've repetition in the music And we're never going to lose it.
This is the three R's The three R's: Repetition, Repetition, Repetition They haven't really deviated from the blueprint all that much. And, I really didn't want to be the one to quote John Peel's famous - and thoroughly accurate - description of the band, but he said of them: 'Always different, always the same'.
Smith's big influence is rockabilly. One of his favourite albums is '20 Truck Driving Classics'. I'm not kidding. The others are early Zappa/Mothers, Beefheart, krautrock (Can and Neu, definitely), Black Sabbath (he auditioned as a singer for a heavy metal band before starting The Fall - no kidding), 70s Lou Reed (his favourite album is/was Take No Prisoners - which figures, if you listen to Totale's Turns and the between song invective ('Are you still doing what you did two years ago? Don't make a career out of it!). He also likes some reggae - Lee Perry, Big Youth, some Augustus Pablo and King Tubby. Plus late-period Elvis.
Urm Gary Glitter (no s.t). If you want to watch something bonkers, here's a wasted MES talking to some tv crew about his favourite albums: (He attacks the presenter too, for good measure). My ranking as of right now. I like the Julia Nagle era more than most seem to. My ranking as of right now. I like the Julia Nagle era more than most seem to. I also think 'Tempo House' is a classic, second only to 'Garden' on that record ('Garden' is, for me, a flat-out masterpiece).
And 'Perverted by Language' is one of my favorite Fall records. If I had to choose just two Fall albums they would be 'Hex Enduction Hour' and 'Perverted by Language.' The Sancutary, two disk reissue of 'Perverted,' by the way adds some terrific extras.
But who knows what it is that makes a Fall record a favorite? If I had to have just one disk of Fall music, it would have to be the Kamera comp., 'Hip Priest and Kamerads.' After that it's probably: Slates The Wonderful and Frightening World of the Fall This Nation's Saving Grace Grotesque Room to Live The Real New Fall LP Oh, and I think 'The Steak Place' is just fantastic.
Played it over and over when it came out. Desperate for food/ Desperate for respite. I give off a beatific face. I also think 'Tempo House' is a classic, second only to 'Garden' on that record ('Garden' is, for me, a flat-out masterpiece). And 'Perverted by Language' is one of my favorite Fall records.
If I had to choose just two Fall albums they would be 'Hex Enduction Hour' and 'Perverted by Language.' The Sancutary, two disk reissue of 'Perverted,' by the way adds some terrific extras. But who knows what it is that makes a Fall record a favorite? If I had to have just one disk of Fall music, it would have to be the Kamera comp., 'Hip Priest and Kamerads.' After that it's probably: Slates The Wonderful and Frightening World of the Fall This Nation's Saving Grace Grotesque Room to Live The Real New Fall LP Oh, and I think 'The Steak Place' is just fantastic. Played it over and over when it came out. Desperate for food/ Desperate for respite.
I give off a beatific face. Click to expand.L, I must be a prophet or a psychic because I predicted this would happen! The love for PBL is definitely there. Same goes for Tempo House which is one of my least favorites tracks Smith/The Fall ever did.
I find it intriguing that the fans represented seem to be in the love/hate category when it comes to that tune. Then again it would be a boring world if everyone agreed wouldn't it be? I enjoyed Slates for what it was.short and not necessarily sweet. Did Eliot's estate sue over Middle Mass?! Hanley's bass playing was sloppy in spots but oddly effective as well. He wasn't a lead player per se but his playing was very much the glue that stuck the band together instrumentally speaking.The 'vocal' on Older Lover had just the right amount of sneer in the singer's voice.Slates,Slags,ETC always reminded me of a post punk version of Them's Gloria however in a far more venomous mode!Leave The Capitol was quite menacing sounding even the harmonica part was. If one can imagine that.
Click to expand.They were a shambolic mess in public around the time of The Marshall Suite. The band seemed to change line-ups every other show. However, the records (and accompanying eps) from that era were great. The run from Levitate through Heads Roll is one of the best runs they had IMO. Possible exception is Are You Are the Missing Winner, which sounds half-baked even by MES standards. I remember reading somewhere that the original release wasn't even mastered. The levels are crazy low on my copy.
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Click to expand.Are you talking about CDs or LPs? No idea about the CD versions but: There were a couple of vinyl reissues on the Earmark label around 2002, they did the albums from 'Witch Trials' through to 'Hex'. Lots of bonustracks and glossy gatefold cover but when a friend and I compared them to my UK originals they just sounded lifeless. So.unless new represses come along the Step Forward and Rough Trade stuff is best listened to from vintage UK vinyl.
The two Kamera albums also sound good as German Line pressings - preferably the ones on black vinyl since white coloured Line pressings can be somewhat noisy sometimes. I don't think there are siginificant sonic differences between German and British BB albums, at least I've never heard them.
I've also got a great sounding US pressing of 'The Wonderful + Frightening World' on PVC that adds two bonustracks ('CREEP' + 'No Bulbs'). I've got no idea how recent represses of these titles sound but originals are just fine and not very expensive. I only know a Dutch 'Extricate' that also sounds fine but there also was a UK pressing. And I guess beginning with 'Shiftwork' there only was one vinyl version for most of the albums with the exception of 'Real New Fall LP' but someone else might weight in here. Hope this helped?????
L, I must be a prophet or a psychic because I predicted this would happen! The love for PBL is definitely there. Same goes for Tempo House which is one of my least favorites tracks Smith/The Fall ever did. I find it intriguing that the fans represented seem to be in the love/hate category when it comes to that tune. Then again it would be a boring world if everyone agreed wouldn't it be? I enjoyed Slates for what it was.short and not necessarily sweet. Did Eliot's estate sue over Middle Mass?!
Hanley's bass playing was sloppy in spots but oddly effective as well. He wasn't a lead player per se but his playing was very much the glue that stuck the band together instrumentally speaking.The 'vocal' on Older Lover had just the right amount of sneer in the singer's voice.Slates,Slags,ETC always reminded me of a post punk version of Them's Gloria however in a far more venomous mode!Leave The Capitol was quite menacing sounding even the harmonica part was. If one can imagine that.
Click to expand. I like PBL a lot. Apart from Tempo House, which I tend to skip. Fall epics are usually three acts log.
Tempo House doesn't get beyond the first But you can't argue with Garden, Eat Y'self Fitter, I Feel Voxish and Hexen Definitive Strife Knot, with its stunning putdown: ' You know noting about it/It's not your domain/Don't confuse yourself with someone who has something to say'. I love Slates. My entry point.
£1.59, it cost me. Still got my copy too.
'An Older Lover' was written about Smith's then lover, Kay Carroll, who also doubled up as the band's manager. Apparently she was mortified when she heard him recording it in the studio. Not surprised. I like PBL a lot. Apart from Tempo House, which I tend to skip.
Fall epics are usually three acts log. Tempo House doesn't get beyond the first But you can't argue with Garden, Eat Y'self Fitter, I Feel Voxish and Hexen Definitive Strife Knot, with its stunning putdown: ' You know noting about it/It's not your domain/Don't confuse yourself with someone who has something to say'. Rome series cast. I love Slates. My entry point. £1.59, it cost me.
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Still got my copy too. 'An Older Lover' was written about Smith's then lover, Kay Carroll, who also doubled up as the band's manager. Apparently she was mortified when she heard him recording it in the studio. Adobe photoshop 6.0 serial number. Not surprised. Click to expand. Right at the start of this thread someone wrote - quite accurately - that we wouldn't be discussing the audiophile merits of Fall releases because none of their releases sound good.
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I only ever had UK copies of Fall vinyl - apart from In A Hole, which was a New Zealand only release. (It was pirated in Germany, and copies did appear in shops in the late 80s). They sounded fine. Beggars stuff should be easy to come. Rough Trade and Kamera/Line material less so. One note of caution - if you should get Live at the Witch Trials and Dragnet on vinyl, make sure you get early pressings, because Step Forward reissued the albums on vinyl several times, and the pressings got worse and worse.
The Fall- I Am Curious Oranj The Fall I Am Kurious Oranj Jason Gross (May 1998) As Chuck Eddy noted, not too many scores for ballet companies toast William of Orange, let alone have it done for them by the Fall. Oddly enough, that's exactly what happened with Michael Clarke's dance troop when the band performed live with them for their tour. More strange is that this one of the the group's most consistent sets. With the Fall though, this is a mixed blessing as one of their enduring qualities is all the weird shit that hits you when you least expect it in always surprising and new ways.
This start off with 'Hip Priest,' revived from Hex Enduction Hour as 'New Big Prinz,' now a stomping, shout-along where Mark yells 'check the record, check the record, check the guy's track record!' (who's he talking about here, eh?). Brix weighs in with a majestic theme song which has her mewling out the title(s)- must have been fun to see the dancers leaping and prancing around to this. Mark takes a page from William Blake and launches into 'Jerasalum,' one of the band's best rock tunes ever, starting with a stammering beat then steading into a strident, driving rhythm where Mark casts some aspertions on the government and the people who want to milk it for cash. When I saw the band do this live around '89/'90, me and my friends were inspired to dance around like an Indian tribe, attracting more attention than the band for a while!
For some reason, I've literally fallen asleep twice while listening to 'Kurious Oranj,' which is a shame as it's a funny toast to the 'hero' as he makes 'Hitler laugh in pain' and 'paved the way for the atom bomb' (as if you'd expect a reverant tribute from the Fall) all to a choppy reggae beat. The first side closes with a sharp stomper and another good shout-along 'Wrong Place, Right Time' which actually has a nice cello-like passage smack in the middle.
The second side starts out with a weird kind of remix of everything we've heard before with 'Win Fall CD 2088 AD.' After that, we hear the relatively civilized 'Van Plague' and 'Yes Oh Yes.'
'Bad News Girl' is one of my favorites here as it starts out slow and mournful then revs up at the end with what sounds like a toy piano jingling around. 'Cab It Up' ends things off by stealing the opening lick from the Stooges 'T.V. Eye' and making another solid rocker from the crew. Though I like the album a lot, I don't exactly trust it as a Fall album. Other than 'Win Fall' there's no real nutters here and that's exactly the kind of thing that's always made the band interesting and compelling. Still, if you're willing to suspend your disbelief that one of their records can be pretty consistent with good songs, this is a fine piece of work.
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